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Music.
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Gifts, Chaser's Food and Spirits, Excel Chiropractic, Quality Nails,
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Jesse Moffitt Entertainment, and the Sioux Falls Arts Council.
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The Dave Holley Hour features Sioux Empire arts and entertainment conversations.
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A true lover of arts, entertainment, good food, and fun times,
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including an occasional Jack Daniels.
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Okay, so a few Jack Daniels. Here he is, Dave Holley.
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Welcome, one and all. Great to have you along, as today we will be speaking
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to JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell.
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They're going to be playing Saturday night in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. Fun place to play.
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Joel stopped by the Dipsy Doodle production studio this week before it became
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the Dripsy Doodle studio. You see, there's this warmer weather,
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you know, to get up a freezing that we all wanted so bad.
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If you hear water dripping in the background, it's snow melting coming through the window.
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Thankfully, able to move audio equipment out of the way.
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And it could also be called the dripsy studio due to my runny nose.
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Thank you so much. First cold of the year, said Mr. Sarcasm. Hmm.
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I do need to update you on a concern of mine.
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A couple of weeks back, I woke up with basically the equivalent of that big
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smoke monster from the TV show Lost in my right eye.
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That's how bad the floaters were and so forth, dust bunnies and stuff like that,
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you know, very limited vision and couldn't focus in on things.
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So I was hoping it would simply go away, as floaters typically do.
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So a few days later, I was able to get into the Sanford Optical Clinic because
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things weren't improving.
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And then a week after that, which would have been last Friday morning,
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the eye surgeon looked me straight in the eye.
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You'll like that pun intended, huh? And said there were four choices,
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two of which would have put me in the situation of maybe a 50% chance of going blind.
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So, I went with what was behind door number four, which was the whole shebang.
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So, here's the process. In order to prevent my left eye from possibly having the same issue,
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she lasered it, and I got injections in both eyes, and I got back,
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or I go back, rather, February 14th.
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And if the left eye is doing well, and the right eye has been clearing some,
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she will most likely laser that one.
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And while they do numb the area, there is still some pain involved with the laser.
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I made it through, didn't have to ask her to stop, but it's a different type
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of pain. Oh my, don't want to have to do it again, but I'm going to.
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Because if all goes well, I should have a restored vision.
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All right, in the meantime though, I can't drive or work.
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Typing, texting, reading, all quite difficult.
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I had to cancel trivia the past week, but hoping with the large screen TV and
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an iPad that I can put right in front of my eyes, I'll be able to make it through
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that this coming Monday.
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The heartbreaker, though, was having to bow out of being in this year's premiere premieres.
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Tough to memorize lines, and with balance and depth perception being off as
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well, blocking directions would have been very trying.
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Not to mention the fact that the day that they open would be a day after my
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next most likely eye surgery.
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But since I can still talk, a little bit at least, we trudge on with this show
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because at least I can talk.
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Joel Shotwell coming up in just a few minutes.
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But first, let's pop the cork on this bubbly little show.
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Music.
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Whatever you're drinking, whatever you're drinking it from might very well be
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determined by where and when you're listening.
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My choice, my choice, of course, is a Jasper Newton Jack Daniels Diet Coke with Lime.
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For you, whether it's a cup of coffee, glass of milk, bottle of water,
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mug of beer or cocktail, glass of wine or a flute of champagne,
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lift it high and toast it to those that care.
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You know, those friends that wonder how you're doing.
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Ask if you need anything. Can I give you a ride?
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Or they can sense that while you might be shrugging off a situation,
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but know there's more to it. So cheers to caring people.
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Speaking of cheers, if you were a fan of the old sitcom cheers,
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then you're going to love Chaser's Food and Beverage, West 12th and Ellis Road.
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The friendly staff will get to know you by name and provide you with great food
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and drink and lots of smiles.
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Monday night, Dave Holley, our trivia, cross your fingers at Jesus.
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Starting at 7 and this coming Monday night, the trivia theme will be Double
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Down, all about the twos.
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If that sounds like a repeat from last week, it was, because we never got to do the Double Down.
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So we're doubling down on the fact that Dave will do trivia this coming Monday. day.
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What over the past week made Dave laugh, guffaw, chuckle, chortle,
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giggle, smile, or maybe even shed a tear of joy,
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that would go to those great people that just make stuff up. Improv Falls.
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Now, while my sight was horrible, etc., I could at least hear Improv Falls,
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and I, you know, could put a hand down, and the distance I was from,
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I could tell who each of them was, that that type of thing.
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But, you know, when you've gone through something and you just need a good laugh,
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and if you're ever in need of a good laugh, you see that Improv Falls is playing somewhere, go.
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You will be thankful for it.
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Coming up next, JAS Quintet saxophonist Joel Shotwell on the Dave Holley Hour.
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Get ready to unleash your creativity and spread the love.
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Introducing the latest art movement that's sure to capture your heart, love.
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Artists of all backgrounds, it's your time to shine.
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Channel your passion and express the boundless facets of love through your unique creations.
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Whether it's a canvas masterpiece, a photograph, or a sculpture that speaks
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volumes, We want to see your interpretation of love in all its form.
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This is not just a call for art. It's an invitation to share your perspective
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on one of the most powerful emotions known to humanity.
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Love transcends boundaries, and so does art.
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Let your imagination run wild and submit your masterpiece to be part of something extraordinary.
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The Call for Art Love is open to artists all around. Don't miss your chance
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to be featured in a showcase at Serendipity Studio in Sioux Falls that celebrates
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the universal language of love.
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Your art could inspire, uplift, and resonate with hearts around the globe.
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Join us in this artistic celebration.
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Visit our website at serendipitystudiosd.com for submission details,
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deadlines, and more. Let your creativity radiate and be a beacon of love through your art.
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Because in a world that could always use more love, your masterpiece might be just the spark it needs.
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Call for Art. Love. Where passion meets creativity.
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Submit your masterpiece today and let the love flow through art like never before.
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The Love Exhibit runs from February 3rd through the 24th. You can see it live
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at Serendipity Studio, located downtown Sioux Falls in the historic Shriver
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Building on the second floor.
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Check out the new ceramic studio
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in Sioux Falls, conveniently located off Kiwanis Avenue on 5th Street.
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TJS Ceramics, inside Oscars Mini Storage.
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Thousands of classic vintage ceramic mold items and several new items too.
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TJS Ceramics offers classes, special open studio nights, and completed ready-to-purchase items.
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Bisc studio time or painting parties are available. Visit TJS Ceramics Studio
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in person today or email tjsceramics at gmail.com for more details.
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Are you an artist? Need some funding to further your art? There's a great opportunity
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for you through a Sioux Falls Arts Council program.
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The Artist Microgrant Program This program gives away several micro-grants to
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local artists, no matter what art discipline you're in.
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Unlike more traditional grants, a micro-grant is very easy to apply for.
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Go to artssouffalls.org. If you haven't done so yet, create a listing on the
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artist's directory, which is beneficial in its own way.
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Then go to the artist micro-grants page and apply online. The process is simple.
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Find out more about the Sioux Falls Arts Council as well online at artssouffalls.org.
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Music.
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The Dave Hawley Hour, like eavesdropping on a great conversation between two
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very interesting people.
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Welcome back, everybody. Oh, my goodness.
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It is always so great. It is such a pleasure to talk Sioux Empire arts and entertainment.
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Always great to have a guest back from time to time.
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And, well, this guy's made a few multiple turns here around the wheel with Dave
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Holley Hour Joel Shotwell, how are you, my friend?
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I'm good, how are you doing? Glad to hear that I'm doing well,
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yeah And it's great to have you And, you know, here we are, it's Thursday and
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you're going to be playing this weekend Yeah, we get to play with JAS Quintet
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at the Flandreau Crystal Theater.
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And that's what JS doesn't get to play in Sioux Falls a whole ton,
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uh, just cause it's quintet and we do like kind of our own thing.
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So it's not kind of, it's usually not in the corner background music,
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although we do it and we love playing with each other no matter what,
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but, uh, it's kind of nice when it's special in a theater because we get to do our thing for real.
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And it's kind of the setting that, that size of group was meant to be in.
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So have you played there before? We have. Okay. Yeah.
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It's a great little show there once and loved it. Yep. Yep. Yeah.
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It's like one of these gems that exist all over the state.
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Actually, these, a lot of these small towns have these theaters and they've
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kind of people work in the town to keep them going or people will like re revitalize
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them and stuff like that.
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Yeah. Well, my hometown of Rock Rapids is hoping to do that at some point. That would be awesome.
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Got a lot of work to go on that one yet. Yep. Yeah. So that is a fun place.
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The Crystal Theater in Flandreau. Yep.
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Yeah. And what's so great about it is you go out there and, you know,
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the marquee that's still out there and so forth. Always a fun, fun time.
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It is. All right. So who will be involved in the quintet at this time about?
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The quintet is Jeff Paul on piano, Andrew Reinhart on bass, Jim Spears on trumpet,
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Dan Heyer on drums, and myself on saxophone.
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All right. You know, I've been thinking about this the other day because I was
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listening to some Golden Oldies and there were some sax parts in it.
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And I know we always talk, you know, when you are around, it's usually we're
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talking talking jazz and who your saxophone influencers were from the jazz area and so forth.
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But are there some great solos on the saxophone that you hear from time to time
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in pop music that you go, Oh man, I got to do that. Yeah. I mean.
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Sometimes like in pop music, I, I, it kind of, there, there's only like a couple
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that really, where I get that feeling where you're saying like, oh yeah, I got to do that.
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And one of them is like, you know, Wayne Shorter's solo on Asia, Steely Dan.
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And that, when I heard I was, that totally helped open my mind to the idea of
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like more pop saxophone in a way, but it's hard.
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Like I, I totally respect it. And part of it is like, I, when I,
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when I do, and I've tried to practice it and mimic that sort of style,
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I don't really quite feel right.
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Like it connects with me very much.
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Not that it, it never bothers me either. Like every time I hear it,
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I'm like, that is absolutely perfect.
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No one should ever ask me to do that because like i
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can't like i like it's like i don't find i'm
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not compelled to like work right that towards
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that but yeah there's like at like tom scott like at the stuff he does he's
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done tons of stuff and i'm sure you've heard like he was on all sorts of 80s
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records and does solo stuff and every time i hear him it's usually he was on
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that zilli daniel album too and it's usually like whoa this is somebody who
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does this the best as they can And it's like, is it lute to back?
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And I think on SNL, like, holy crap, like that's insane.
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Like, and I just can't, it's like an attitude, right? Like, and I admire it
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and respect it, but I don't have that sort of attitude.
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But to answer your question, yeah, that Wayne Shorter one is the only one that's
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really got me where I'm like, oh, like that's. I have to.
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Yeah, I would, I would love to be in those shoes, you know?
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All right. but in the meantime in the shoes that you are in jas how many years
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you guys been around now wow hmm people it's probably kind of like cliche to
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to say like oh i'm not quite.
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Sure yeah but i actually am i'm trying to think like probably 15 years uh we've
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awesome we've all been playing together for probably close to,
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close to 20 years like in some aspect right
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the jas was an accident kind not
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an accident we put the five of us together for a reason but you
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know it became jas and then it kind of just stuck that way like those things
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do uh because why not like oh we've been using it let's just use it so with
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that particular configuration of those five guys it's probably been 10 to 15
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years okay wow and And how many, do you still call them an album?
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I do, yeah. And we do other stuff too. Because you've got one up in a frame
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even up there. Oh, thank you. Yeah.
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Wow, that's awesome. And now I actually have a turntable that I can play shit
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on. Sweet. That's awesome.
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Yeah. Sorry, I got lost. Yeah, so how many albums have you been putting out then?
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Well, we've done as a band together too, but we've also done an album we played with Jamie Lynn on.
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That was hers we played on like half of one of hers we've also done little recording
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projects for for little things not like full albums so and there's always stuff on the horizon,
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or ideas like oh we could do this or we could do this you know
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when we do an album with the jas quintet
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it is a true jazz quintet and
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we it's meant to be live so right
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the recording a thing like that is worthy of
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putting on a final album we have to
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do it in a setting where it's like let's get the best sounds we
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can so it's a little more involved so it doesn't happen
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as often right yeah it's not like you know people putting
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out uh albums because part a was done in somebody's home part b was done and
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they all just find somebody to put it all together and go oh yeah it's nice
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mix yeah yep yeah which is a cool way to do it too like my last album we all
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recorded separately and did it that way. But with the quintet.
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It's just a different thing, so. Right. But yeah, we've been able to get some
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good live recordings of each other too, and that's been fun to listen.
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Is this your favorite group to be in?
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I think, yeah, I mean. Because you play in a variety of different bands and so forth.
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It's hard to say that like the favorite, but it definitely feels the most comfortable
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and at home. The most personable?
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The most, yeah. Yeah. And I mean, all the groups that I tend to play with,
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because I'm really picky,
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I don't, it really matters to me where I spend my time, you know,
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like, and I know that sounds like really stuffy, maybe, I don't know,
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but I don't, I don't want to leave my family to go spend time with people I don't love, you know?
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So like when I play with, you know, anybody else, the Hags, John Bakken,
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now I've played with some and other groups,
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it's always going to be people that I'm all in, but JAS definitely feels like
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the most, when we play together, it's like, oh, yeah,
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it matters that we've been speaking to each other in a musical way for 10 to 15 years.
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What do you like about everybody that's in your group? Well, I don't like them.
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Not the feeling you love them. Nothing, nothing. Those dirty bastards.
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No. No. do you
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want me to tell you what i like best about each one of them that would
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be wonderful okay okay i like that idea okay yeah
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so as a professional on a
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professional level i'll start with andrew and then
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i'll talk about their personal okay okay so andrew would
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be on the professional level obviously he plays upright
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bass and electric bass really really good
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professional level too he can communicate really really really well in fact
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like a lot of times i have to i run things through him or bounce ideas about
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communication off of him because i feel like that's probably one of my weakest
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points then he has a lot of experience that way also like if something goes wrong,
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in a musical setting especially when it comes to technology or any setting musically
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which happens all the time you're setting up you're sound checking things are
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going wrong he can He can usually kind of burrow in and figure those things
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out. And he does a good job. Yeah.
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On a personal level, he's just, you know, we camp together.
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I go stay at his cabin. You know, like we're raising children and we bounce.
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We talk about those. We have cigars. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, I just like his honesty. So Jeff, Jeff Paul, the piano player
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on a professional level, he's, he's one of the most interesting piano players
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that I've ever played with.
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He can, because he is open and we've done this for so long and he's patient with someone like me,
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how I, that's how I feel is he's been patient with me along my growth,
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you know, and I know he doesn't feel like that, but, but not
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doesn't feel like he's fathering or anything like that but
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you know what i mean like but you i'm trying to be overly humble
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right yeah i feel comfortable taking risks but he
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likes that and he'll go there and he and we
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can kind of discover it what's fun is that you know
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we all tend to go have our own dialect so professionally man
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he he listens so closely he
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knows exactly where i am in a musical phrase
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or idea even if i'm abstract i of
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feel like he knows what kind of abstraction i'm drawing from
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tech like just as far.
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As like theoretical ear knowledge like also
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if i'm moving in a pattern that's like
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logical but not typical
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he knows what that sounds like and he goes there with
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me that's the whole point of the music you know
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like there's a reason why some people play
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together all the time because they figured each other out you know so
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he i feel on a professional level that's jeff
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and he brings a lot of music to the table uh personal
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level same thing with we have cigars you
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know i went and saw his concerto tried to get as close
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as i could i made jokes that me and riley were
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gonna my daughter we're gonna throw things at him anyway yeah
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we we just are good good friends which is you know
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will be a common theme with every member of the band he has a
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a fine collection of hats too great collection of
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hats and i like his like kind of
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just passion about different things other than music because
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it's nice to know that i'm not the only weirdo out there
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that likes to obsess over other things you know
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you talk about the professionalism of those two especially
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andrew and jeff being in the south dakota symphony orchestra as well and absolutely
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knowledge that they have from from that and you know and by the way jeff is
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usually playing like an oboe or something when it comes to that yep so you know
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that it's the knowledge of other instruments it's the knowledge of how.
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Music in a classical way can be put together but by the same token doing jazz
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and how it can be improv yep yeah yeah i mean the more you know of any about
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the more you know the better,
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your ideas are, you know, like, and it can come from any place,
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you know, musically or outside of that.
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I think it's, that's really cool to know people like that. Yeah.
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All right. Moving on. Dan Heyer. Oh yes. Drummer Dan. Yeah. Drummer Dan professionally,
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like you can always leave it up to Dan.
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Like, you know, like I have ideas, like a lot of times.
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You know, everybody works a little differently. And what I noticed first with
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Dan professionally is that I used to maybe, and I don't know,
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you never know how you come across, but I used to be like, oh,
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I was thinking about drums like this. Maybe this could work.
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But with, with Dan, I can just say, oh yeah, it's kind of like faster and like,
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just kind of like throw like real abstract and then just know that he's going
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to kind of start tweaking that.
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And I don't need need to interject i just know that eventually he's
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going to stumble on something that i could have never fathomed and that'll
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be way better and every single time that seems to
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be the case i'm like oh damn and then he also like
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has the ability which this is what i really love
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everybody in the band but but the drummer can dictate a lot in a band like the
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drummer is basically in charge i think when we're performing especially in this
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aspect because he has the most power but dan Dan isn't afraid and he's good at changing on the spot.
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Like we, it's, we don't always play our tunes the exact same way.
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In fact, we sometimes we play them very differently and a drummer can impede that.
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If a drummer doesn't want to go where we're going, then we're,
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we're stuck going where he goes, you know, we could fight it, but it's all.
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So Dan has great, um.
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I mean, and obviously he's a great drummer too, and all sorts of styles.
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I like Dan too, because me and him go work with schools in the area too.
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Like band directors will hire us and we'll come work with their band clinic for an hour or two.
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And Dan's really good at that. He can take the rhythm section and he has great advice.
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And we work good as a team because we're kind of like go out at different angles.
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Personally, yeah, he's raising a daughter. And last snow day,
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last year, like he came over and played Ninja Turtles with us all day on the
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Nintendo Switch, you know, so.
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Nothing like knowing a military man that plays that. I know.
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Yeah. And he just sweet. He's always so chill.
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Yeah. Like he, like he, he handles things well, where I tend to get emotional.
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I let my emotions take over me sometimes. And then last but not least,
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Jimmy, on a professional level,
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we've like pretty much one of the first guys I played with when I moved back
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to Sioux Falls, like on a first guys that I was like, kind of like,
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oh, this, this guy is like, knows how to get gigs.
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And, and so, or he's like showing me that, oh yeah, if I, if I hustle too,
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I could probably do stuff also, you know, like, so I felt like I learned from him that way.
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And musically, we have grown up together in very formative years of our development.
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So, which on a professional level is really interesting and rare.
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And I never take it for granted that, and it's funny and we laugh,
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but it's also like a freaking miracle because we can do things wrong at the
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exact, we often will do it wrong at the exact same time, the exact same way.
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Rarely does one of us make a mistake.
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Not with the other person. And it's weird as hell. It's like,
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we've never played it that way before, but we did that time and we did it exactly together.
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When we're playing next to each other, we breathe together.
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It's like a unit because we play wind instruments too. It's a,
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it's a, it's a, it's really compelling.
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And it's a reason why we, people like this do it all the time.
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You know, like when you have a connection that deep, it's really amazing.
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Amazing like you know you get like it's almost like a form of
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like group meditation but with
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him it's so odd because there's a clear thing
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happening that you could no science could explain i don't think yet today you
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know what i mean right well quarks you know we know that the word chemistry
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is yeah yeah that's the thing there's magic we know that you know with some
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Some physics or whatever,
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like, you know, you can alter a cork here and it will alter the cork across
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the world or anywhere in the universe.
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Like that has to be happening on a musical level. And I don't mean that lightly,
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but something like that has to be happening.
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There's no other explanation for it unless the processing in our brain is just
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that amazing, which it might be. Who knows?
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Yeah. And what I love about it is the fact that you've mentioned it.
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Oh, here's these guys that they can impede it.
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They can take it a certain way. and then you're going okay
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all right and follow along but all of
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you have this trust amongst each other
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that it's gonna be great
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no matter what yeah and you talk about you
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know never playing the song the same way what are
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rehearsals like or do you guys not have to worry about rehearsal because you
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have all been doing it enough and you know what you're coming to the gig with
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it kind of depends like if it's we got together before we went west river this
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summer for a rehearsal because we hadn't played some of the tunes.
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We were trying new tunes out. Mm-hmm.
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And sometimes it's a matter of whoever wrote the tune just kind of wants to
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know what it feels like in that context.
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So we'll rehearse when there's new material like that, or if it's been a while,
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you know, or like if we can like just get together to play some new stuff, we will do that.
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We generally don't, unless we have a guest, like we had Andrea Ross.
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Yes. She, she sang with us for the SDPV thing.
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So we rehearsed with her on that way. Maybe we can get forms down if things
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are more like we have a guest, so we need to like, they're not going to know
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our language. You know what I mean?
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Or like, we don't know what they're capable.
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Like we, we can do whatever, but we don't want to make them feel uncomfortable.
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So yeah, we, we don't really rehearse much, you know.
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When you do, where do you rehearse? Andrew's basement. Andrew's.
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Okay. He's got a piano and nice.
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He's kind of got a little mini studio and a good space room for it.
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You know, it's kind of like it's set up kind of that way. So it's pretty nice.
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Just down the street. I know. Right here in the neighborhood.
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We talk about that often. Yeah.
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We should tell you sometime when you're where you can come and watch. Oh man.
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We're usually yelling at each other and like somebody will start punching someone else.
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Like Jan's throwing drumsticks. After everything you've said so far, I can.
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We actually rehearsed once like in Annie Younger's studio, her painting studio.
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And she had like a class there drawing and she was painting us.
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She is working on this painting of us rehearsing it's freaking amazing but
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anyway like somebody was was drawing and we were kind of like in between
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tunes they're like are you guys always this nice to each other and we're like i
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guess i mean this we're just talking like you know there's not like you always
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gotta you want to navigate like make sure you listen to everyone you know like
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sometimes people like i've played with groups coming into town like sometimes
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you get i'm not suckered and it's good experience right but sometimes you get
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like a call and some like Like there's a group in town,
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they're from Chicago and they're doing tunes from, I don't know what band and
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you're, they need a tenor sax player.
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So you go do that and you go to the rehearsal and the MD is just angry and yelling
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at everyone. And like, you're like, oh my God, don't screw up.
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I don't want this guy on my ass. Yeah.
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But then I do want them to hire me again. Yeah. And that, but maybe,
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I mean, it's usually, I've played with a few of those groups multiple times.
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It's fun, but it's also like, what a
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weird world to have to live in where you're doing in
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music and have to be yelling at somebody like what
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the hell yeah don't you think that's uh partly i
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i mean we talk about this so often on this show is the collaborative
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nature of the arts community here not
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the competitive yeah and so i'm sure that when you do work with people from
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out of town that there are different styles yeah i was thinking about that today
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with the front actually the competition we we have competition for sure right
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everybody wants to get their piece piece of the pie, but everybody
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will help each other get piece of the pie. Yeah, the idea of the competition isn't.
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Winning because there's no winning the idea of the
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competition is is like i was explaining this to a friend
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let's and you know what i think i've read this also in rick rubin's book the
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creative act if you haven't read it it's amazing it's one of the best things
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i've read in years and in one of the chapters a lot of that book just can reconfirm
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like some things in my head that i was like am i crazy for thinking this this
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is one of them that yeah i'm competitive i grew up doing doing sports all the time,
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but the competition is more like, I don't, I don't get mad losing.
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It's, it's the idea of that person just showed me what I'm capable of.
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You know what I mean? Like when I hear another saxophone player,
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I use this description, actually it played in a trio with John Bakken and Dan
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Heyer in a trio open for us.
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And Brian Hannigan was playing sax and he's a beast.
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And, and I could have listened to that 45 minutes of him playing and thought competitively,
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like i have to beat him but i was thinking competitively i
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was thinking like jesus this is amazing he's playing everything teach
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me he's showing me what i'm capable of but what
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do i do next so that it it it complements that so
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it told that the competition is good because it
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teaches you it doesn't matter if you're better what
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are you going to do that's yours you know what i mean right yeah stop
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comparing yourself to others yes it's not learn from others
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but yes it doesn't have to be that you have
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to be the same as someone else yeah
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yeah and the beatles and the beach boys did that yeah true like
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they were listening to each other's albums as they were making them they're like wow this
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is in it and admiration but then they're like let's make one better yep you
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know look what happened just beautiful art you haven't bought an ewe yet have
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you no i haven't any plans to no i don't think okay yeah nothing wrong it's
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the only type of person I know that can pull that off. He can and it's great.
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I think they're cool like I played one before but I just don't like,
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I love the I love the thing that the saxophone gives me too much, you know.
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Yeah. And I can't, it's hard for me to go to other, I play other instruments often but,
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When I'm, when I'm practicing, it's the sax in my hand because it's just,
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I have a certain amount of control over it so I can orate what I'm feeling.
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And it's hard to let that go.
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You know, I'd like to get a bass clarinet, a good one.
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Really? I love that. And it feels close to a saxophone.
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I, right now I have in my house a Contra bass clarinet, which is six foot tall
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and I'm playing it cause they needed somebody to, because the lady who usually
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plays it in the high plains woodwinds is going to have a baby.
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And so paul shelf who directs that said hey would
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you want to play contra base and i'm like well can i
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would you have one and they're like the group does you can have it
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and i'm like oh yes i will if
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i can have that in my house for like the next four months which i will it sounds
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amazing it is the coolest thing it's just and what will that be a part of that
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the high plains woodwinds high plains and the concert is maybe i can tell you
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when that concert is because some people may may want to go because it's kind of cool.
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Yeah. My wife plays saxophone in it.
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See, I did not know that. You didn't? No. High Plains, oh wait, April. It's a Sunday.
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Oh boy. Maybe I didn't put it in. Oh my God, I better find out.
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Yeah. I'll have to let you know at a later date.
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Yeah, she plays saxophone in it. So. Well, excellent. Yeah. I look forward to hearing that then too.
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But in the meantime, Saturday night you will be at Flandreau,
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in Flandreau rather, at the Crystal Theater.
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Some new music or basically some things you've been doing in the past and just
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revamped or what do we have?
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Saturday will be some new music from my album, and we're going to play a tune
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that Dan Heyer wrote and probably some of Jeff Paul's tunes that are new that
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a lot of people probably haven't heard, and a tune that Andrew wrote,
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which is like we've done experiments on it.
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But we played it, and every time it's one of those where we're finding it.
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And the last time, we kind of did something a little bit different on the radio,
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and it was really awesome.
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So a lot of new stuff. There won't be much that people have ever heard us do
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before, probably, and mostly original things.
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Any new albums in the works?
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No, not actively, but just...
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Personally, for me, just it's always a reset time right now.
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True. And it's hard to like, I feel like this just kind of waking up into doing work, good work again.
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It's hard to reset after a big project like the last one I had because I did
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a couple of projects with Mark Romanowski too.
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Who still has to be on this show. Yeah. He was just on the street too. That's right.
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But yeah, there will be stuff. I'm just trying to figure out what.
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Okay. Well, we look forward to it no matter what. Well, thank you.
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All right. And so you know the trick.
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Usually there's two questions that I ask at the end, but since you've been on
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enough and it is a new year, let's kind of go this way since you led into it
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perfectly by talking about getting recharged and so forth.
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Yes. Are you a resolutions person or a goal setter?
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Hmm. No, I don't set resolutions because I don't want to set myself up for disappointment.
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See, that's me. Yeah. And I don't, I don't set goals until I know I can execute them.
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So I will have a possibility of a goal in mind, but I won't commit to it until
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the commitment has to happen. If that makes sense.
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00:35:42,291 --> 00:35:46,151
See, for me, I'm one of those that I don't do resolution because you're right.
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You know, usually within two weeks, everyone has broken the resolution.
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But if you have a goal, you get to the end of the year and you can mark off
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which ones you did and did not. Sure.
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And then you can say, okay, were we, you know, overshooting on what we should
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have been doing here on this one?
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Is it something that's still attainable next year? Sure. Is it okay that it's
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next year and it didn't happen this year?
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And you can look at it in a variety of ways instead of beating yourself up.
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Absolutely. Yeah. I like that.
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Yeah. And that's kind of the way that I go. But, uh, you know,
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I guess I have lists, you know, so a similar thing, I guess I don't think of
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them like goals, but that's good. Good point. They are goals.
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They're like, and I just look and see what I can accomplish and what I can't.
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And maybe the, the like, yeah. Okay.
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I even added a new section to everything for 2024 of work toward.
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00:36:37,471 --> 00:36:41,131
Sure. Yeah. Not just, you know, here's a goal. You got to get this done or not.
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That's a good idea. Toward. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool.
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So looking forward to that, but always look forward to seeing you on stage. Yeah.
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00:36:48,471 --> 00:36:53,791
And the people that you were with, obviously, are just top notch as well. So fantastic stuff.
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00:36:54,091 --> 00:36:57,671
All right. You did say, you know, you were competitive in sports.
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What sports were you in? I was in bowling, fast pitch, softball,
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football, wrestling, basketball.
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I would have been in any sport that I could have been in.
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But there's some that just didn't work, you know, because you just only so much
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time, I guess, when you're a kid and your parents only have so much money,
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you know. I had you pegged as a wrestler.
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00:37:20,649 --> 00:37:24,229
Oh, really? Yeah. Yes, which I was as well. That's awesome. We should wrestle.
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You want to wrestle? Oh, we can do it. I can't care down to arm wrestling at this age, though.
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Thumb wrestling. And I'm taking a look at your arms going, oh shit, I won't win.
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Thumb wrestle, we'll do that. Okay, we can handle that. All right.
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Joel Shotwell. So Saturday night, what time?
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7.30. 7.30 in Flandreau at the Crystal Theater. How do we get tickets and how much are they?
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00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:50,489
I think they're only 10 bucks at the door. 10 or 15 if you go to the Crystal
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00:37:50,489 --> 00:37:54,889
Theater website, I think they're on there. Yeah, I know. I'm like, that's pretty awesome.
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00:37:55,049 --> 00:37:58,869
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a great little venue, too.
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00:37:59,009 --> 00:38:03,169
Really cool spot. We like playing there. The people there have always been super cool. Yeah.
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So. All right. Well, looking forward to it, my friend. Thanks,
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man. And as always, thanks for stopping by.
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Yeah. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. And we'll be back to wrap up the Dave Holley
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